TWO
CULTURAL
MESSAGES





Bill Weintraub

Bill Weintraub

MANLY MORAL ORDER

A couple of brief cultural messages and true tales about Manly Moral Order -- from

Xenophon's Anabasis, The Journey Up-Country, The Story of the 10,000

Cast of Characters :

  • Xenophon of Athens you, hopefully, already know. But, just in case : Xenophon was an Athenian aristocrat who was a contemporary of Plato -- both Men were born ca 430 BC and died ca 350 -- and both were students of Sokrates.

    In 401, Xenophon, whose interests were primarily military, became involved in an attempt to overthrow the Persian Great King Artaxerxes II and replace him with his phil-hellene brother, Kyrus.

    And so he joined a mercenary army, painstakingly assembled by Kyrus, of more than 10,000 Greek Hoplitai who marched "up country" -- that is, away from the coast, and into the interior of Persia.

    There, near Babylon, a great battle was fought, in which the Greeks prevailed, but Kyrus was killed.

    Without Kyrus to lead them, those Persians who had been part of his revolt swiftly defected to the Great King.

    At which point the Greeks realized they were stranded in the midst of a very large and very hostile enemy.

    And their situation became even worse when the Persians, who'd claimed to be willing to escort the Greeks back to the coast, and with whom the Greeks had a truce, suddenly and treacherously seized and killed the five Greek generals who'd headed up the army.

    After a night of despondency -- of athumia -- of want of fighting spirit -- Xenophon emerged as the Leader who could and would rally the troops to Fight their way out of Persia.

    Not by trekking west back to the Ionian coast -- but by a grueling journey north -- to the shores of the Black Sea -- where there were Greek cities and colonies.

    Years later, living safely and contentedly on an estate gifted him by the Spartans, Xenophon wrote an account of that journey, an account known as the Anabasis.

    The two cultural messages presented here are excerpted from Xenophon's Anabasis.

    And at this point in that story he's now in more-or-less over-all command of the 10,000.

  • Cheirisophos -- a Lakedaimonian polemarchos or war-leader ; he headed up a contingent of 700 Lakedaimonian Warriors sent by the Spartan government to aid Kyrus -- the only official government contingent among the 10,000.

    Cheirisophos -- the accent in his name is on the second syllable -- Chay REE so phos -- and Xenophon worked very closely and, except for one instance, amicably together -- Cheirisophos was in charge of the vanguard of the 10,000 as they Fought their way out of Persia and back to Greek territory.

    The name Cheirisophos is a combination of cheir = hand + sophos = skilled ; most likely, and given that most Spartan names were combative, Cheirisophos means Skilled in Hand-to-Hand Fighting.

  • Pleisthenes is an Amphipolitan mercenary -- Amphipolis was a city allied to Sparta.

    Pleis derives from Pleistos = most + Sthenes = Sthenos = strength, might, of all kinds moral as well as physical -- Place THE nes -- the most strength, the most might -- the name, aggressive and combative, spells out the Warrior's strength and power.

  • Drakontios -- another Spartan -- the Drakon part of his name means Dragon, Serpent of Huge Size, Python.

    And the tios may be a diminutive meant to give him human stature -- a Human Dragon, a Human Python.

    Drakontios -- the accent in his name is on the second syllable -- Dra KON tios -- had been "exiled from home as a boy because he had accidentally killed another boy with his whittle" -- the whittle, called a Xuele, which was part of a Lakonikan soldier's kit, was used for whittling wood, and especially spears ; it could also be sickle-shaped, and Spartan boys indulged in Sickle Fights in which, sometimes, one of them got killed :

    Two boys were fighting, and one of them wounded the other mortally with the stroke of a sickle. The friends of the wounded boy, as they were about to separate, promised to avenge him and make away with the one who had struck him, but the boy said, 'Do not, by the Gods, for it isn't right ; the fact is, I should have done that myself if I'd been quick enough and brave [agathos -- Manly, Manfully Excellent] enough.'

    ~Plut. Apoph. (Sayings of the Spartans) 69.34.

    Drakontios is put in charge of a Gymnikos Agon -- naked athletic games, held to Honor the Gods, and in thanks for deliverance from Persian territory -- and as you'll see, like any Spartan, Drakontios likes his games Fought Rough and Hard.

First Cultural Message

[4.6.1] When seven days had passed, Xenophon gave over the village chief to Cheirisophos to act as guide, leaving his family behind with the exception of his son, who was just coming into the prime of youth [hebasko -- to enter puberty, come to man's estate, come to one's strength, Lat. pubescere] ; this son he gave [as a hostage] into the keeping of Pleisthenes of Amphipolis, in order that the father, if he should serve them well as guide, might take him also back with him. Then, after putting into his house as large a quantity of supplies as they could, they broke camp and set out upon the march.

[2] The village chief [komarches -- archo of a kome], who was not bound, guided their way through the snow ; but by the time they were on the third stage Cheirisophos got angry with him for not leading them to villages. He replied that there were none in this region.

[3] Then Cheirisophos struck [paio] him, but neglected to bind him. The result was that he stole away during the night, leaving his son behind. And this was the only cause of difference between Cheirisophos and Xenophon during the course of the march, this ill-treatment of the guide and carelessness in not guarding him. Pleisthenes, however, fell in love with [eramai] the boy, took him home with him, and found him absolutely faithful [pistos].

~Xen. Anab. 4.6.1-3, translated by Brownson.

Bill Weintraub:

So -- what we see in the First Cultural Message is that the local boy, who'd been held as a hostage and abandoned by his father, is taken home by the Warrior Pleisthenes -- He Who Slays the Most -- He Who Has the Most Kills -- who has fallen in love with him, and who then finds him to be absolutely faithful.

The mention of male-male, of the Male Eros, is casual, and the emphasis is on Fidelity, and, given Pleisthenes' name and the fact that he's a mercenary, on Martial Ardor and Manly Might.

Pleisthenes falls in love with the boy who's been abandoned, takes him home, and finds that the boy returns his act of kindness with Absolute Fidelity.

Again, a cultural message -- taken from a real-life event.

. . .

Second Cultural Message

[4.8.25] After this they made ready the sacrifice [thusia] which they had vowed [euchomai] ; and a sufficient number of oxen had come to them so that they could pay their thank-offerings [hegemosuna] to Zeus for deliverance [soter], to Herakles for guidance, and to the other Gods according as they had vowed. They instituted also athletic games [gymnikos agon -- nude athletic games] on the mountain side, just where they were encamped ; and they chose Drakontios [Drakon -- a Dragon, a Serpent of huge size, a Python], a Spartan, who had been exiled from home as a boy because he had accidentally killed another boy with the stroke of a dagger [Xuele -- a whittle, a curved knife used in shaping a spear or javelin ; a sickle-shaped dagger], to look out for a race-course [dromos] and to act as manager of the games [prostateo tou agonos -- Steward of the Games].

[26] When, accordingly, the sacrifice had been completed, they turned over the hides to Drakontios and bade him lead the way to the place he had fixed upon for his race-course. He pointed out the precise spot where they chanced to be standing, and said, "This hill [lophos -- crest of a hill, ridge] is superb for running, wherever you please." "How, then," they said, "can men wrestle [palai-o] on ground so hard [skleros] and overgrown as this is?" And he replied, "The one that is thrown [katapalai-o] will get hurt [aniazo -- distressed] a bit more." [a truly Spartan response]

[27] The events were, a stadium race [stadion] for boys, most of them belonging to the captives, a long race [dolichos], in which more than sixty Cretans took part, wrestling [pale], boxing [pugme], and the pankration [pankration] ; and it made a fine spectacle [kalos thea -- a Noble and Beautiful Spectacle] ; for there were a great many entries and, inasmuch as the comrades [hetairoi] of the contestants were looking on, there was a great deal of rivalry [philonikia].

[28] There were horseraces also, and the riders had to drive their horses down the steep slope, turn them around on the shore, and bring them back again to the altar. And on the way down most of the horses rolled over and over, while on the way up, against the exceedingly steep incline, they found it hard to keep on at a walk ; so there was much shouting [krauge] and laughter [gelos] and cheering [parakeleusis].

~Xen. Anab. 4.8.25-27, translated by Brownson.

Bill Weintraub:

This cultural message is simply about the Ubiquity of Fighting among Boys and Men.

Drakontios, who'd been exiled because he accidently killed another boy with his whittle, is chosen to supervise the Games, which are both athletic and religious.

A typical Spartan, he's rough and tough.

It doesn't concern him that the Fighting Surface is hard -- the guy who gets thrown will just get hurt a bit more, he says.

The Games consist of Foot Races, Horse Races, and Boxing, Wrestling, and Pankration -- all run and Fought in the nude.

Xenophon says the spectacle was Kalos -- Noble and Beautiful : there were many contestants, and because their comrades were watching, there was a great deal of rivalry, of PhiloNikia -- Love of Victory, Rivalry, Contentiousness.

Rivalry and Contentiousness are Good ; Fighting is Good.

PhiloNikia -- Love of Victory -- and PhiloNeikia -- Love of Strife -- are like PhiloTimia -- Love of Honour -- they're Good, because they help Men realize the arrival, the Adventus, of their Manhood, their Fighting Manhood.

And Fighting Manhood is the Best Thing in the World.

Fighting Manhood is the Best Thing in the World.

In the Kynegetikos, the Hunting with Hounds, Xenophon says that

Men can only be Saved through other Men's Manly Excellence, their Fighting Manhood

And in the Lakedaimonian Constitution, he says

All Men want to Ally Themselves with the Brave -- with the Manly, which is the Good

All Men.

At the Games, the Men, who are all battle-hardened soldiers, and far, far from home, shout, laugh, and cheer for what they see among their comrades.

They're Men among Men, Fighting Men among Fighting Men -- and they're Happy.

Somewhere among them is Pleisthenes, and his Boy -- who's been liberated from his family, and found a home with a Warrior -- and his fellow Warriors.

Pleisthenes, and his Boy, are Happy too.

And their fellow Warriors are Happy -- for them.


  • Pleisthenes : Most Mighty, name of an Amphipolitan Warrior mentioned by Xenophon at Book 4, Chapter 6, Sections 1-3 of the Anabasis -- in Brownson's translation ; Pleisthenes was put in charge of a youth, an Armenian hostage ; after the hostage's father ran away, Xenophon tells us, Pleisthenes "fell in love with [eramai] the boy, took him home with him, and found him absolutely faithful [pistos]."

    Pleisthenes is also the name, in the Iliad, of the Atreid father of Agamemnon and Menelaus.

    Pleis derives from Pleistos = most ; and Sthenes from Sthenos = strength, might, of all kinds, moral as well as physical :
    Plei-sthenes -- the most strength, the most might -- the name spells out the Warrior's Moral Strength and Physical Power.
    (While A-sthenes means wanting strength, weak, feeble -- think of an a-sth-matic.)

    Πλεισθενης

    Aside:

    Smith, in his Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology (ca 1873), identifies Plei-sthenes with Epi-sthenes of Amphipolis, commander of Peltastai at the battle of Cunaxa [Xen. Anab. 1.10.7].

    Translation : Smith thinks Epi-sthenes of Amphipolis and Plei-sthenes of Amphipolis are the same person, confused into two people by some medievally monkish copyist.

    So does a classicist named Dillery, who revised Brownson's 1922 translation in 1998.

    And maybe they are.

    That would explain why Episthenes / Pleisthenes is put in charge of the young Armenian hostage at 4.6.1 -- that is, because he commands or has commanded the peltasts -- he's not just another grunt among ten thousand, in other words, but an officer of high rank and proven ability.

    That said, does it matter whether the Warrior's name was Episthenes or Pleisthenes?

    No.

    But if they are the same person, it then becomes the case that Xenophon praises the Warrior -- in both Love and War.

    Which is quite Xenophontic -- that is to say, the sort of thing Xenophon often does because he likes doing it.

    And that's not a small point.

    To Xenophon, if a Man is a good Warrior, he'll also be a good Lover, that is, a good practitioner of the Male Eros.

    So if he can praise a Man as both a good Warrior and a good Lover, he will.

    Cf, in that regard, Xenophon's recounting of the story of the Spartans Archidamus and Kleonymus, and his account of what happened when the Spartan Anaxibius was ambushed by Iphicrates -- as referenced by Smith.

    Brownson's translation says of Anaxibius that "his favourite youth . . . fought and fell with him," but the Greek says that his paidika -- "his darling, his favourite, his male lover, stayed beside him . . . and there fought and fell."

    Notice too that Anaxibius' record of service to Sparta in the Hellespont in 400 BC was decidedly mixed ; but by electing, in 389, to fight and die at his post, he achieved at the moment of his death, a kalon --a morally beautiful, because selfless, act -- which, in the ancient world, had the effect of wiping out any prior mis-steps and mis-demeanors, and guaranteed that, Anaxibius, like Aristonicus, would be remembered as having fought and died gloriously.

    Inevitably, in the ancient world, every such Warrior act of aphilopsychos -- of disregard and contempt for mere life -- refers back to Achilles' decision to avenge his fallen lover Patroklos, even though so doing will bring about his own death.

    That decision doesn't simply honor Manhood, the most important Idea, the Idea-of-Good, and the Sanction, of the Warrior World of Being -- but elevates Manhood - Manliness - Manly Spirit to an unassailable, an indomitable and invincible position over any world-of-becoming pleasures which might be lost to death.

    Plutarch:

    It is a fact that men desert their fellow tribesmen and relatives and even (God knows) their parents and children ; but lover and beloved, when their God is present [entheos -- when they're in-Godded, filled with their God, have their God within], no enemy has ever encountered and forced his way through.

    . . .

    In some cases, even when there is no need for it, Erastai [Lovers] are moved to exhibit their love of danger [philokindunos], their disregard for mere life [aphilopsychos].

    And that's what Anaxibius, in the presence of and joined by his paidika, does -- exhibits his love of danger and disregard for mere life.

    As Achilles did before him.

    It's what Manhood requires -- of Men.

  • See also:

    Kleomachos

    Polykrates

    And note that Episthenes of Amphipolis should not be confused with Episthenes of Olynthus, the paiderastes who, in yet another demonstration of true Warrior aphilopsychos, invites the rather boorish Thracian King Seuthes to chop off his head rather than kill a handsome youth.

    Επισθενης Ολυνθιος


    Finally -- there's something else which needs saying.

    Xenophon says of these Games organized by Drakontios that they "made a fine spectacle [kalos thea -- a Noble and Beautiful Spectacle].

    Classicist John Dillery, who revised Brownson's 1922 translation in 1998, in turn says, in a footnote, that this is the main point : That "the ordered, successful army holding athletic games [gymnikos agon] is a thing of beauty."

    By which he means, clearly, as a Greek would, a kalon -- a thing of moral beauty.

    To Xenophon, the ordered, successful army, holding athletic games, is a thing of moral beauty.

    As it should be to us.

    Bill Weintraub

    16 March 2023


    AFTERWORD


    By

    Bill Weintraub

    Before Manly Moral Order was posted, Warrior Naked Wrestler, whom we call NW, had written to me about a nun who had had control of his early Catholic School education, a nun whom we call sister vicious viola, because she'd been sadistic towards him and his brothers.

    It was the second time he'd written to me about her, and I wanted to present to him a very different and Man-focused upbringing and life, that of the Spartan Drakontios, as an alternative to the one NW had suffered through at the hands of the nuns in Catholic School.

    So I put together and posted Manly Moral Order.

    NW and I then had an email discussion about that post, and esp Drakontios ;

    Here are five of those emails :

    EMAIL 1, Bill Weintraub to Warrior NW :

    Hi NW,

    It never seems to occur to you that just as there was an organized religion behind sister vicious viola --

    there was an organized religion behind Xenophon and Drakontios.

    And there still is.

    Religion -- Faith -- matters.

    It teaches us that there are greater powers in this world -- than ourselves.

    Cicero :

    That animal which we call man, endowed with foresight and quick intelligence, complex, keen, possessing memory, full of reason and prudence, has been given a certain distinguished status by the supreme Powers who created him ; for he is the only one among so many different kinds and varieties of living beings who has a share in reason and thought, while all the rest are deprived of it.

    Lord Ares is one of those Powers.

    Lord Ares is the God of Fight, of Manhood, and of Fighting Manhood.

    And He was a tremendously powerful force in the lives of both Xenophon and Drakontios, who both, being Spartans by adoption and birth, worshipped Him.

    sister viola worshipped a god of pain and humiliation

    Xenophon and Drakontios worshipped a God of Warrior Might and the Blessedness of Warrior Pride.

    We don't know the whole history of Drakontios, but we know that he killed another boy in a Fight.

    A Sickle Fight.

    Xenophon knew that too, and obviously, it not only didn't bother him -- but he liked it.

    Xenophon was a Warrior and a Leader of Warriors.

    He worshipped a God of Fight.

    And he took under his wing a boy who'd killed another -- in a Fight.

    You need to think that through -- all the way through :

    The athletic games which Xenophon and Drakontios created, combat sport games, dedicated to the Gods Zeus and Polydeukes, Herakles and Hermes, and others, were kalon and kalos, a thing of moral beauty, of bodies well made and deeds of Fight -- well done.

    The Games were presented to a victorious army, in a state of good order, harmony, discipline, and restraint.

    Throughout the army, the Men could Love whomever they wanted.

    While the Spartans -- the same guys who had endured the whipping contests at the temple of Artemis -- came from a culture which mandated male-male love affairs for its teenagers.

    And celebrated the victories of its sons with iron sickles -- mounted on slabs.

    Their culture was pro-Man -- and pro-Fight.

    NW, I've attached a pic of a statue of Lord Ares, God of Fight.

    That statue was created in 425 BC.

    The Anabasis began in 401 BC.

    THINK IT THROUGH.

    In the statue, Lord Ares is gazing downward, lovingly, at the body of a younger person -- probably a teen-aged boy.

    Like Drakontios.

    THINK IT THROUGH.

    EMAIL 2, Bill Weintraub to Warrior NW :

    Hi NW,

    What do sister viola and the terrorists in isis have in common ?

    They're both followers of Abrahamic faiths -- Christianity and Islam -- and they're both extremely intolerant of our Greco-Roman heritage and traditions.

    Esp of male-male.

    And the Xenophon - Drakontios story is a male-male story.

    Xenophon shows special favor to Drakontios when he appoints this homeless boy Steward of the Games.

    And the Men in their orbit on the anabasis would have known that :

    That Xenophon and Drakontios liked each other.

    Just as they knew that the boy Pleisthenes adopted liked him -- and was loyal to him.

    Was Drakontios a naked wrestler ?

    Yes.

    They all wrestled and they all wrestled naked.

    Was sister viola a naked wrestler ?

    No.

    Nor was she into male-male.

    You have a lot in common with Xenophon and Drakontios.

    You have nothing in common with that wretched nun, but you keep bringing her into the conversation.

    You'd be far better off if you forgot the ugly sister, and spent your time trying to understand the athletic, often naked, boy Drakontios, and the world in which he lived.

    The Naked Games of which he was steward, and the Gods the Games were dedicated to.

    Hermes, Polydeukes, Herakles, etc.

    And Lord Ares too.

    And his statue.

    Drakontios would have seen the statue of Lord Ares in the agora in Athens.

    Xenophon would have grown up with it.

    They both would have known that the Lord Ares of that statue trained at the Palaistra in Athens.

    Trained in Boxing, Wrestling, and Pankration.

    As well as in War Games.

    That he trained genitally nude.

    Just as his statue is nude.

    Both Xenophon and Drakontios were taught that the male genitals were sacred, holy, blessed, worthy of reverence and awe.

    And they believed that.

    Being determines consciousness.

    When you spend your time with Xenophon, Drakontios, Ares -- they become your consciousness.

    Their naked athleticism, their muscular homoeroticism, their cocks and balls.

    Naked and Holy.

    Look at the pix of Lord Ares.

    Think of how many years of Nude Fighting it took him, from boyhood to late adolescence, to develop his body -- and in particular -- his massive glutes :

    And think how much power he could generate with those glutes -- the power to strike with both hands and feet.

    And look at the birth of a star.

    It looks like male parthenogenesis to me.

    And don't miss the ephebes -- the young military Men -- training nude.

    EMAIL 3, Warrior NW to Bill Weintraub :

    SUNDAY

    Bill,

    I sat down and read your Xenophon/Drakontios write-up from 12 July 2023. I print those things out to read them off the page slowly. It is the only way to take it all in.

    Reading all that makes me think I could have been there. It took me a lifetime to grasp and realize that watching and anticipating and then participating in totally naked one-on-one, skin-on-skin, naked balls and cocks combat WAS a completely normal and beautiful thing. It was absolutely in tune with nature and human male nature.

    For YEARS I hated myself for it and I kept the whole thing in my mind. NEVER sharing it with anyone. No one.

    A 3 minute shirtless aggressive grapple with another boy on the mats could instantly and easily make my teenage cock get rock hard. It was a completely natural and positive response to the challenge and the fight. And the culture (the unwritten rules) made me ashamed of that. So I had to hide it from anyone.

    As I am now older, it is frustrating to realize that back in my youth that I was completely spot-on. And that the culture was wrong. And that it was the anti-natural-male culture that I lived in that was -- and IS -- out of sync with nature and out of sync with natural law.

    Check out the manly beauty of the fight below. What you cannot see is their beautiful man-testicles and their beautiful man-phalluses that drive them to fight in the first place, their beautiful Manhood between their legs.

    That pic would give any normal boy or man a throbbing boner. In a culture in-tune with nature -- which we are not -- there would be no shame in that.

    Let that sink in.

    EMAIL 4, from Bill Weintraub to NW :

    Hey NW,

    You've come a long way.

    But you're still ignoring the Gods.

    Yet without the Gods, there's nothing.

    Lord Ares is the God of Fight.

    Fighting confers Manhood.

    Lord Ares is the God of Manhood.

    Manhood enables Fighting.

    Ares, Mars, Tua, Polydeukes, Kastor, Hermes, Herakles -- all Gods of Fight.

    Without the Gods of Fight, there's no Fight.

    There's nothing,

    With the Gods of Fight, the veils are torn away.

    And there's everything.

    This just in from the anabasis :

    [6.6.30] Thereupon the troops resolved to send the generals and captains, Dracontius the Spartan, and such others as seemed fitted for the mission, and to request Cleander by all means to release the two men.

    Once again Drakontios the Spartan, the boy who killed another while Fighting nude with sickles, is chosen for a sensitive diplomatic mission, this time to Kleandros, the Lakedaimonian general in charge of Byzantium.

    Why Drakontios ?

    EMAIL 5, from Bill Weintraub to NW :

    DRAKONTIOS

    When we first met Drakontios the Spartan, the boy who killed another in Nude Armed Combat, Nude Sickle Fight, he'd been given the high religious post of Steward of the Games.

    Games which the 10,000, whom Xenophon always refers to as "the army," were celebrating to Honour the Gods who helped them reach the sea and the possibility of getting home.

    Even if Drakontios was Xenophon's beloved or delicia or whatever, it's not like Xenophon to assign such a sensitive and religiously-important job to an airhead.

    Drakontios obviously had other qualities which made him worthy of the post.

    And we see this to be true in the next mention of Drakontios, which takes place some months after the army has arrived at the Black Sea.

    So :

    The coast of the Black Sea turns out to be another difficult and conflictful environment for the army.

    There are more barbarians and other native peoples there, none of whom are easy, and there are Greek cities, all of which are controlled by the Lakedaimonians, aka the Spartans.

    The Lakedaimonians, who possess the keys needed to get the army back home, are initially very wary and suspicious of the army,

    Because the army is composed of 8,000 heavily armed Men, Hoplites, many of them from the Peloponnesus, which is where the Lakedaimonians are from, known to be the roughest and toughest Fighters in all of Greece.

    Potentially, they're a threat to everyone who crosses their path, and Xenophon has to be constantly calm the concerns of other officials while keeping his Men, who are restive, under control.

    That they be disciplined and controlled is key to the Lakedaimonians, who will not work with them unless, like full-bred Spartans, raised in the agoge, they show themselves to be subject to discipline, harmony, order, restraint.

    In short, the Spartans will work with an army, but not a rabble.

    And now an incident occurs which suggests they are just a rabble.

    You can read about that starting here :

    Xen. Anab. 6.6.1 - 30.

    It seems minor but it isn't.

    And it threatens to undermine all of Xenophon's hard work with Cleander -- the Greek is Kleandros -- the Spartan Harmost or Governor of Byzantium.

    He's the most important Spartan official on the coast.

    And Xenophon has to be very diplomatic in dealing with him.

    Eventually, he and Xenophon become friends.

    But, if you take the time to do the reading, you'll see that it wasn't easy for either ot them.

    In any case, that Xenophon entrusts Drakontios with a diplomatic mission to Kleandros speaks volumes about Xenophon's high opinion of Drakontios, who was once a boy who killed another in nude sickle fight.

    The episode says a great deal about the Greek attitude toward Fighting, Nude Fighting, and Sickle Fights, and the boys who engage in them, even unto death.

    Overseeing that Nude Mortal Combat are the Gods, the Gods of Fight, who decree that Men should Fight Nude.

    As They do.

    The great Roman poet Statius has a phrase about this :

    "nudamque lacessere pugnam"

    which means "and incites to nude fight"

    nude combat

    pugnam nudam

    The Gods incite Men to Nude Fight.

    Including you.

    In America, in the old days, when two guys wanted to Fight they stripped off their shirts and exposed their pecs and abs.

    In Greece and Rome, the Men Stripped -- and exposed all, including their cocks and balls.

    And if the Nude Fight was with Sickles, and there was damage to the cocks and balls, so be it.

    NW :

    Reading all that makes me think I could have been there. It took me a lifetime to grasp and realize that watching and anticipating and then participating in totally naked one-on-one, skin-on-skin, naked balls and cocks combat WAS a completely normal and beautiful thing. It was absolutely in tune with nature and human male nature.

    For YEARS I hated myself for it and I kept the whole thing in my mind. NEVER sharing it with anyone. No one.

    A 3 minute shirtless aggressive grapple with another boy on the mats could instantly and easily make my teenage cock get rock hard. It was a completely natural and positive response to the challenge and the fight. And the culture (the unwritten rules) made me ashamed of that. So I had to hide it from anyone.

    As I am now older, it is frustrating to realize that back in my youth that I was completely spot-on. And that the culture was wrong. And that it was the anti-natural-male culture that I lived in that was -- and IS -- out of sync with nature and out of sync with natural law.

    Check out the manly beauty of the fight above. What you cannot see is their beautiful man-testicles and their beautiful man-phalluses that drive them to fight in the first place, their beautiful Manhood between their legs.




    Bill Weintraub :

    "The beautiful Manhood between their legs"

    That's right.

    The beautiful Manhood, the beautiful cocks and balls, between their legs that impels them to Fight --

    That's what the Gods want you to see.

    The Beautiful Manhood of Men, both physical and spiritual, that compels and impels them to Fight :


    The Overwhelming Eagerness and Ardor to Fight of Young Men,
    Youths in the Full and Fresh Bloom of Their Young Manhood,
    Their Fighting Manhood

    There is nothing more Sacred or more Holy
    Than The Primal Love of Fight of Young Fighting Men


    The Yearning for Manfight is the Yearning for Manhood
    For the Manly Virtue of Manhood can only be conferred through Manfight



    Get rid of the twisted sister.

    She's in the way.

    She's opposed to the Gods, to Men, to Manhood and Manliness and Masculinity, to Virilitas and Pugnacitas, and to everything else we believe in and worship.

    Get rid of her.

    The Gods detest her.

    Replace her with Drakontios.

    Whom the Gods love.

    The Spartan Boy who so trusted the Gods they he Fought Nude, with Sickles, against another Nude Spartan Boy -- for Domination and Control.

    He won.

    Not just the Fight, but his life.

    He was exiled, but he didn't let that stop him.

    Soon a Man himself, he joined up with other Fighting Men, Men who Fought Nude as he did, to Fight for the Freedom of the Greeks.

    And he prospered.

    Constantly surrounded by the cocks and balls and sweat and stink and blood of Fighting Men --

    The Gods smiled upon him and he prospered.

    Bill Weintraub

    17 July 2023










    THE SCENT OF THE FIGHT

    This is a great pic. It's a visual of the ManScent that Men pick up from each other in a combative contest.

    It's part of the experience in Wrestling and of the physical contact in stand-up Fighting when the Fighters come together in sparring or in a Boxing match.

    They pick up the scent from each other either consciously or unconsciously.

    It's always there. It's the scent of manliness, the scent of bodily aggression of two male bodies, and it's the scent of Men physically bonding-in-fight. And it leads to Eros, the God of romantic passionate love between Men. In the case of Fighters, that scent is part of the attraction that guys have for each other when they physically connect and sweat during a one-on-one match up.

    That scent of mansweat-in-fight is an aphrodisiac.

    Of course the vast majority of fighters would NEVER admit to it; our modern culture would never allow that.

    Men might admit to the sensation the other man's scent has as an attraction for the other guy if they were in absolute privacy. Maybe.

    In this Fight the bottom man is about to get finished off. Everything comes together at the end of the Fight : the Aggression, the hits (to the face), the ManScent of ManSweat, the mingling of each Fighter's Sweat, and the beautiful display of Manly Muscle made possible by Testosterone.

    The Fighter is a thing of beauty. And the Fighter has a beautiful scent that you can only experience if you are in the Fight.

    NW

    20 July 2023


    HARD HITS IN THE ARENA AT PALMYRA

    This pic of the arena in the Roman town of Palmyra, which the present-day terror group ISIS tried to destroy, caught my attention. A Greek style theater, built by the Romans, it has a lot of arch work in the structure. It is magnificently preserved. It must have been aways out of reach of vandals, thieves, barbarians, and christians.

    What caught my attention is the barrier wall separating the "stage" from the seating area. Not just a theatre, this place would also have been used for Gymnikos Agon -- Naked Struggle -- Festivals and their exhibitions of Nude Wrestling, Boxing, and Pankration --

    and for Gladiatorial Fights as well.



    The wall would have kept the spectators clear of the Man-Fights as the spectators would have been extremely close to the Fighters in this arena.

    It reminded me of the few times that I have sat directly next to the Fight Cage or Ring of an MMA Fight, close enough to touch the deck and to hear the Smacks and Thuds of the Dudes taking Hard Hits to the Body and Face. THERE IS NOTHING SO EROTIC. I remember sitting so close at some events to not only Hear the Hits, but close enough to occasionally get doused with FightSweat, FightSnot and FightBlood as the Young Men Slugged Each Other's Faces, just inches from me. NOTHING LIKE IT.


    To Hear the Smacks and Thuds of the Dudes taking Hard Hits to the Body and Face


    The Fight produces Eros.

    NW

    20 July 2023


    WRESTLING AND BALL SACKS

    Being in an all-male wrestling room packed with sweat-covered paired-up wrestlers made to repeat this move over and over, 10 times each and then switching positions -- is like nothing else ever.

    It's a thing you do when being trained in wrestling.

    Wrestling is about balls. And in a room full of shirtless wrestlers it's what you do.

    It CAN give you a hard-on because it absolutely forces you to think about the manliness of the man-to-man contest. It is natural to be turned on by the fight.

    Wrestling forces you to think about your ballsack and it forces you to think about the other man’s ballsack.

    In the wrestling room you're almost naked.

    No shirt, just shorts, which frequently ride-up and expose the balls.

    One day we might again wrestle like the Greeks and Romans.

    Naked and unashamed.

    NW

    20 July 2023


    DRAKONTIOS
    kai
    POLYKRATES

    Two Muscular, Nude, Armed, Youths -- Each About to Strike the Other.

    It's affirming to me -- of what Man Against Man and Male Against Male should be -- every time I see it :

    Naked, unashamed, unafraid

    Nude, Proud, Brave

    When the Boys Fight, they Fight for their Honour and the Honour of all Men.

    That's what the Gods have taught them to do ;

    That's what the Gods want them to do.

    That's what the Gods provoke them to do.

    The Roman Poet Statius :

    nudamque lacessere pugnam

    and provoke to nude fight

    nude combat

    pugnam nudam

    The Immortal Gods of Fight incite and provoke the Fighters :

    To Fight for their Honour and the Honour of all Men

    Naked, Unashamed, Unafraid

    Bill Weintraub

    25 July 2023


    NAKED COCK AND BALLS

    Everytime you take a step

    everytime you move in your chair

    everytime you adjust your position in bed

    you can feel your cock and balls


    The Ludovisi Ares
    The God's Cock and Balls
    Are Visible Between His Legs

    That heaviness between your legs is a constant reminder from the Gods -- that you're a Man.

    With a ManCock and ManBalls.

    Ever present, always there for you.

    The Gods don't want you to ever forget that.

    the twisted sister didn't have external genitals

    You do.

    And so do the Warrior Gods.



    Agias of Pharsalos
    Panktratiast


    Perseus


    Discus Thrower


    Antinous


    Hermes
    Psychopomp

    When you look at this statue of Lord Ares, his Warrior Male Genitals are there for you to see :

    As is the knowledge that that statue, before it was the statue of a God, was a statue of the Palaistra-trained body of an athletes, a combatant in Gymnikos Agon, the Strenuous and Brutal Naked Struggle of Boxing, Wrestling, Pankration.

    Naked

    Unashamed

    Unafraid

    All your life NW, the Gods have provoked and incited you, as they have all Men, to Naked Fight.

    Because they want to see you, as you see them,

    Nude

    Proud

    Brave

    Naked

    Unashamed

    Unafraid

    Bill Weintraub

    25 July 2023




    The Overwhelming Eagerness and Ardor to Fight of Young Men,
    Youths in the Full and Fresh Bloom of Their Young Manhood,
    Their Fighting Manhood



    There is nothing more Sacred or more Holy
    Nothing more Alive with the Quickening, Pulsing, Throbbing, Surging, Yearning, Stiffening, Swelling, and Rock-Hardening of Young Manhood
    Than the Ardent Primal Love of Ferocious Fighting Manhood of Young Fierce Fighting Men



    DRAKONTIOS
    kai
    POLYKRATES


    The Yearning for Manfight is the Yearning for Manhood
    For the Manly Virtue of Manhood can only be conferred through Manfight



    CICERO

    "MASSED EPHEBIC BATTLES" -- TUSC DISP 5.77 :

    Spartan youths utter no cry when their bodies are mangled with painful blows ;
    I have seen with my own eyes Troops of Nude Adolescent Boys in Lacedaemon
    Fighting with Inconceivable Obstinacy, using Fists and Feet and Nails and even
    Teeth to the point of losing their lives rather than admit defeat.

    PLATO

    "ENDURANCES OF PAIN, MANIFESTED IN HAND-TO-HAND COMBAT AMONG THE YOUTHS" -- LAWS : I.633 B-C

    SPARTA

    "THE INCULCATION OF COURAGE AND ENDURANCE"

    Inculcate : to instill (an attitude, idea, or habit) by persistent and repeated instruction

    KENNELL

    "THE PREPONDERANT EMPHASIS SPARTANS PLACED ON PHYSICAL TRAINING EVEN IN THE LATER AGOGE
    FINDS EXPRESSION IN THE NUMBER OF INSCRIPTIONS HONORING EPHEBES FOR THEIR COURAGE,
    A PARTICULAR ATTRIBUTE OF VICTORS IN THE ENDURANCE CONTEST."

    "THE TRIAD OF PHYSICAL TRAINING, ENDURANCE, AND COURAGE [APPEARS IN PLATO'S LAWS]"

    "THERE EXISTS AN IDEOLOGY OF PHYSICAL CULTURE IN HELLENISTIC EPHEBATES AND THE LATER AGOGE ... "

    BILL WEINTRAUB

    EACH OF THE VARIOUS CITY STATES HAD ITS OWN VERSION OF THE EPHEBATE, BASED IN THE GYMNASIA,
    WHICH FUNCTIONED AS HOT HOUSES FOR IDEOLOGIES OF PHYSICAL CULTURE AND MARTIAL VALOUR


    Gymnasion at Miletus

    Gymnasia were usually the highest
    buildings in their cities' profiles


    Classrooms grouped around Fight Pits

    The students in the open-air classrooms could see
    other Boys Excercising and Fighting Nude


    The Ephebeion in the Palaistra at Priene

    Kennell :

    The Spartan curriculum was heavily weighted toward physical education
    and military exercises, but so were those of most other ephebic systems.

    Apart from the overwhelming prestige of athletics in Greek culture since the
    time of Homer, military preparedness was required of all ephebes everywhere
    because they formed the military reserve force for their cities.















      Xenophon's very charming and instructive treatise on Hunting with Hounds, the Kynegetikos, begins as follows :

      Game and hounds are the invention [eurema -- invention, discovery, thing discovered not by chance but by thought] of Gods [Theoi], of Apollo and Artemis. They bestowed it on Cheiron and honoured him [timao] therewith for his righteousness [dikaiosyne]. And he, receiving it, rejoiced [chairo] in the gift [doron], and used it.

      And he had for pupils in venery [kynegesion] and in other noble [kalos] pursuits -- Cephalus, Asclepius, Meilanion, Nestor, Amphiaraus, Peleus, Telamon, Meleager, Theseus, Hippolytus, Palamedes, Odysseus, Menestheus, Diomedes, Kastor, Polydeukes, Machaon, Podaleirius, Anti-Lochos, Aineias, Achilles, of whom each in his time was honoured [timao] by Gods. . . .

      Following this prooimion, Xenophon examines in great detail the mechanics of hunting hares with hounds.

      The translator, Prof Marchant, believes that the Kynegetikos was Xenophon's first attempt at writing, undertaken when he was probably about thirty years old -- his friend and teacher Sokrates would have still been alive, and Xenophon would not have yet joined with 10,000 other Greek mercenaries in their attempt to invade Persia and overthrow the Great King, a journey which would be life-changing for Xenophon.

      And that his "target audience," as we would say today, would have been 18-year-olds, "youths of Fighting age," that is, young Men who were now old enough to Fight in Battle, and who were also now old enough to learn to hunt in an organized and disciplined way.

      Prof Marchant :

      The Kynegetikos is full of Xenophon's zest for hunting, his pietism [devotion to the Gods], his insistence that before you try to do a thing you must understand how to do it, and, above all, his belief in the efficacy of diligence and toil [ponos].

      In Chapter VII, for example, Xenophon discusses, again in great detail, the breeding of hounds, and even gives this list of names :

      Give the hounds short names, so as to be able to call to them easily. The following are the right sort: Psyche [Spirit], Thymus [Fighting Spirit], Porpax [Shield Handle], Styrax [Spike], Lonche [Lance], Lochus [Ambush], Phrura [Look-Out], Phylax [Guardian], Taxis [Battle Array], Xiphon [Sword], Phonax [Eager for Blood], Phlegon [Blaze], Alke [Valour], Teuchon [Implement of War], Hyleus, Medas, Porthon [Destroyer], Sperchon [Hasty], Orge [Wrath], Bremon [Growler or Howler], Hybris [Wanton Violence], Thallon [Bloomer], Rhome [Might], Antheus [Blossom], Hebe [Youthful Strength, Vigour], Getheus [Joy], Chara [Delight], Leusson [Stoner], Augo [Shine], Poleus [Translator's note : Rover], Bia [Strength, Force, Violent Force], Stichon [Row of Soldiers], Spoude [Speedy], Bryas [Swell], Oenas [Ace], Sterrus [Rugged], Krauge [Howler], Kainon [Killer], Tyrbas [Brawler], Sthenon [Strong], Aither [Sky], Aktis [Sunbeam], Aichme [Spear-point], Noes [Translator's note : Counsellor], Gnome [Judgement], Stibon [Tracker], Horme [Attacker].

      ~Xen. Hunt. 7.5, translated by Marchant.

      In order to understand this list, and its significance in the Masculinist and Martial Warrior Societies of Ancient Greece, and particularly that of Sparta, we need to re-visit something we discussed in Biblion Proton, something the great classicist Werner Jaeger said about PhiloTimia, Areté, and the Greek system of naming :

      Ambition [PhiloTimia -- the Love of Timé, of Honour, the Love of that Manly Honour which accrues to a Man through his Prowess in Battle, his Prowess in Fight --] is the aspiration of the individual towards that ideal and supra-personal sphere in which he alone can have real value.

      Areté -- The uniquely Male, Manly Excellence known to us as Fighting Manhood -- exists in mortal man. Areté is mortal man. But it survives the mortal and lives on in his glory, in that very ideal of his areté ; which accompanied and directed him throughout his life.[24]

      So, Jaeger says, the ideal of areté -- the Ideal of Manly Excellence -- accompanies and directs the Greek Warrior throughout his life.

      And there's a footnote -- number 24:

      24. This is especially manifest in the Greek system of proper names. They frequently were taken from the realm of social ideals and therefore often refer to such concepts as glory, reputation, fame, etc., and in addition were combined with some other word which expressed the degree of or reason for such fame or reputation (such as Pericles, Themistocles, etc.). The name was an anticipation of the future areté of its bearer ; it set, as it were, the ideal pattern for his whole life.

      [emphasis mine]

      So -- those wonderful ancient Greek names -- names which were given at birth, remember -- names such as Thrasymachos -- Bold in Battle -- and Aristomachos -- Most Manly in Battle -- were, as Prof Jaeger properly says,

      an anticipation of the future areté -- the future Manly Excellence -- of its bearer ; it set, as it were, the ideal pattern for his whole life.

      Let's repeat that:

      An ancient Greek name like Protomachos -- Foremost in Battle -- or Nikomedes -- Victorious Virility -- is an anticipation of the future areté -- that is to say, Manliness and Fighting Manhood -- of its bearer ; it sets the ideal pattern for his whole life.

      And that's why Xenophon, a lover of horses and hounds, cares about the names given these dogs at birth.

      Because a dog too has, at least potentially, Areté.

      As we talk about at length in Chapter III of Biblion Pempton, and as you can learn simply by reading the discussion which follows our definition of Areté / Areta --

      Every thing and every being has its own Areté, its own Excellence, put there by whoever fashioned that thing or being, and existing latent within the thing or being until circumstances are such that it can be realized, achieved, and lived.

      For a Man, Areté is without question Manhood, Fighting Manhood, and all the attributes of Vigor, Valour, Virtue, and Value which belong to the Fighting Manhood of the Ideal and Perfect Man.

      But a dog too has areté -- and if its life circumstances are right, that areté will be realized and lived.

      Further, to the Greeks, as to many peoples, the Areté / Areta of a dog, particularly a male dog, is close or similar to that of a Man.

      The dog, the Spartans said, was "the most valiant of domestic animals."

      While Plato praised the High Spirit -- Thumos -- of the dog, and said that one should look for a similar High Spirit in those destined to be the Guardians, the Warrior caste, of his ideal Republic -- welcoming to friends, and unrelentingly hostile to foes.

      So the Greeks, and particularly Greek aristocrats like Xenophon and Plato, routinely equated dogs with Warriors.

      Which is understandable, since dogs, like Men, who are by nature Warriors, Hunt and Fight.

      Xenophon's list, then, and to paraphrase Jaeger, is

      an anticipation of the future areté -- the future canine excellence -- of its bearer ; it sets the ideal pattern for his whole life.

      For just that reason Xenophon's list, if we exlude the names intended for the female dogs, enlightens us as to the qualities that Xenophon, the classic soldier of classical Greece, believes are desirable in male hunting dogs -- and in Fighting Men :

      Fighting Spirit, Shield, Spike, Lance, Ambush, Look-Out, Guardian, Battle Array, Sword, Eager for Blood, Blaze, Valour, Implement of War, Destroyer, Wrath, Growler, Violent, Might, Youthful Strength, Vigour, Strength, Violent Force, Row of Soldiers, Speedy, Swell, Ace, Rugged, Howler, Killer, Brawler, Strong, Spear-point, Judgement, Tracker, Attacker.

      If that list in any way mystifies you, and if in particular it seems too violent to you, you can learn more about Greek Warrior Names, and their relationship both to the Ideal of Areté / Areta, and to the times in which Greek Warriors lived, simply by clicking on this link.

      Now :

      Having discussed, in great technical detail, what a young Man needs to successfully go hunting with hounds, Xenophon ends his treatise as follows :

      [12.1] With the practical side of hunting I have finished. But the advantages that those who have been attracted by this pursuit will gain are many. For it makes the body [soma] healthy [hygieia], improves the sight and hearing, and keeps men from growing old ; and it affords the best training [paideuo] for war [polemos].

      [2] In the first place, when marching over rough roads under arms [hopla], they will not tire : accustomed to carry arms for capturing wild beasts [ther], they will bear up [aireo] under their tasks [ponoi]. Again, they will be capable of sleeping on a hard [skleros] bed and of guarding well [phulax agathos -- being a Manly Guard of] the place assigned to them.

      [3] In an attack on the enemy they will be able to go for him and at the same time to carry out the orders that are passed along, because they are used to do the same things on their own account when capturing the game [agra]. If their post is in the van they will not desert it, because they can endure [karteria dynamai].

      [4] In the rout of the enemy they will make straight for the foe without a slip over any kind of ground, through habit. If part of their own army has met with disaster in ground rendered difficult by woods and defiles or what not, they will manage to save themselves without loss of honour [me aischros -- without shame] and to save others. For their familiarity with the business will give them knowledge that others lack.

      [5] Indeed, it has happened before now, when a great host of allies has been put to flight, that a little band of such men, through their fitness [eutaxia -- good order, discipline] and confidence [thrasus], has renewed the battle and routed the victorious enemy when he has blundered owing to difficulties in the ground. For men who are sound in body [soma] and mind [psyche] may always stand on the threshold of success [eutyche-o].

      [6] It was because they knew that they owed their successes against the enemy to such qualities that our ancestors [progonoi] looked after [epimeleia] the young men [neoi]. For in spite of the scarcity of corn it was their custom from the earliest times not to prevent hunters [kynegetes] from hunting over any growing crops ; and, in addition, not to permit hunting at

      [7] night within a radius of many furlongs from the city, so that the masters of that art might not rob the young men of their game. In fact they saw that this is the only one among the pleasures [hedonai] of the younger men that produces a rich crop of blessings [agathoi -- Manly Goods]. For it makes sober [sophron-- sober -- that is, having control over the sensual desires] and upright [dikaios -- Manfully Morally Ordered] men of them, because they are trained in the school of truth [aletheia] (and they perceived

      [8] that to these men they owed their success in war [eutyche-o polemos -- success in war], as in other matters) ; and it does not keep them from [apostereo -- rob them of] any other honourable [kalos -- morally beautiful] occupation they wish to follow, like other and evil pleasures [kakai hedonai -- evil, shitty, pleasures] that they ought not to learn. Of such men, therefore, are good [agathos -- Manly, that is, Willing and Able to Fight] soldiers [stratiotes -- in this instance, citizen-soldiers] and good generals [strategos -- citizen-generals] made [gignomai].

      [9] For they whose toils [ponoi] root out whatever is base [aischros] and froward [hybristikos -- insolent, wanton] from mind and body and make desire for virtue ["virtue" is not correct. The word is Areté -- Manhood, Manly Excellence, Fighting Manhood ; if you still don't understand why "virtue" is an inadequate translation of Areté, please review the article on Understanding the Core Position and Actual Meaning of Andreia-Areté-Virtus within the Culture of Fighting Manhood, the Translator's Note, and the Lexicon entry for the Attributes and Qualities of Fighting Manhood] --

      [9] For they whose toils [ponoi] root out whatever is base [aischros] and froward [hybristikos -- insolent, wanton] from mind and body and make desire for Areté, Manly Excellence, Fighting Manhood, to flourish in their place -- they are the best [aristos -- Most Manly], since they will not brook injustice to their own city nor injury to its soil.

      . . .

      [12] But many of those who talk in this way [that is, are critical of hunting], blinded by jealousy [phthonos], choose to be ruined through their own evil [kakia] rather than be saved by other men's virtue [Areté -- Manhood, Manly Excellence, Manly Goodness, Manly Virtue, Fighting Manhood]. For most pleasures [hedonai] are evil [kakai], and by yielding to these they are encouraged either to say or to do what is wrong.

      ~Xen. Hunt. 12.1-12, translated by Marchant.

      Bill Weintraub:

      Xenophon continues on in this vein for some time, and I encourage you to click on the link and read all he has to say.

      But this passage is particularly useful and germane :

      It was because they knew that they owed their successes against the enemy to such qualities that our ancestors [progonoi] looked after [epimeleia] the young men [neoi]. . . . In fact they saw that this is the only one among the pleasures [hedone] of the younger men that produces a rich crop of blessings [agathoi -- Manly Goods].

      For it makes sober [sophron-- sober -- that is, having control over the sensual desires, the passions] and upright [dikaios -- Manfully Morally Ordered] men of them, because they are trained in the school of truth [aletheia] (and they perceived that to these men they owed their success in war [eutyche-o polemos -- success in war], as in other matters) ; and it does not keep them from [apostereo -- rob them of] any other honourable [kalos -- morally beautiful] occupation they wish to follow, like other and evil pleasures [kakai hedonai -- evil, shitty, pleasures] that they ought not to learn.

      Of such men, therefore, are good [agathos -- Manly, that is, Willing and Able to Fight] soldiers [stratiotai -- in this instance, citizen-soldiers] and good generals [strategoi -- citizen-generals] made [gignomai].

      So :

      Xenophon isn't a Platonist -- indeed, as I pointed out earlier in this Lexicon, it's not unreasonable to think that, despite their being the same age and coming from the same social class, despite their both being students of Sokrates, and despite their shared admiration for Sparta -- Xenophon had little use for Plato.

      Nevertheless, what he here very clearly enunciates are Warrior-World-of-Being values of the sort that Plato too praises and wishes to see inculcated into the Guardians and other citizens of his various ideal city-states.

      So -- Xenophon starts by saying that the progonoi -- the ancestors -- had looked after and taken great care of the young Men, in this as in all other aspects of their upbringing.

      To both Plato and Xenophon this is both obvious and absolutely necessary.

      Both Men recognize that human beings must be schooled, trained, raised, brought up, and taught -- both skills -- and Values.

      Both Men also recognize that most pleasures are suspect, and that far from being either necessary or benign, most are un-necessary, vicious, evil, and malaign.

      But that hunting, to the extent that it is a pleasure, is not one of them.

      For, says Xenophon, hunting "is the only one among the pleasures [hedonai] of the younger men that produces a rich crop of blessings."

      And the word Marchant translates as "blessings" is agathoi, the plural of agathos, which is the adjectival form of Areté, and which therefore means, in this context, that which is both Manfully Excellent and Manfully Good, that which is expressive of Manhood -- Fighting Manhood.

      Which emanates from the Warrior World of Being, the Warrior Kosmos.

      So -- we use the word "goods" to refer to material benefits -- such as food, eg, "baked goods" -- or possessions, as in "all his wordly goods."

      But we also use the words "good" and "goods" to refer to non-material benefits -- such as "social goods" -- "altruism and sharing are social goods."

      And in the context of Xenophon's treatise, which is Martial and Masculinist, hunting confers "Manly Goods" -- non-material benefits which are Manly --

      [hunting] is the only one among the pleasures [hedonai] of the younger men that produces a rich crop of agathoi -- Manly Goods.

      And, of course, the rich crop of blessings, of Manly Goods, produced by the "pleasure" of Hunting -- is Manhood --

      Fighting Manhood --

      And all its attributes.

      This question of agathoi -- "goods" -- comes up in another of Xenophon's books, and easily the most famous, the Anabasis, Xenophon's account of the trip "upcountry," that is, into Persia, of some 10,000 or more Greek hoplites, part of a mercenary army put together by the Persian prince Kyrus, who wants to overthrow and replace his brother, the Great King.

      Kyrus and his Greeks travel deep into Persia and Fight a Battle at a place called Cunaxa.

      The Greeks easily win their part of the battle, but Kyrus is killed in the Fighting, and his cause dies with him, leaving the Greeks trapped deep inside of Persia, surrounded by hostile forces.

      The Great King sends a Greek-speaking emissary named Phalinus to try to persuade the Greeks to surrender -- most especially to give up their arms, their hopla, the very arms which make the Hoplite Formation possible, and which the Persians are still unable to beat.

      Phalinus has his say, and the Greeks dispute with him, among them, Xenophon :

      Then Xenophon, an Athenian, said:

      [12] "Phalinus, at this moment, as you see for yourself, we have no other possession [agathos -- "good," that is, Manly Good] save arms [hopla] and valour [Areté -- Manhood, Fighting Manhood]. Now if we keep our arms, we imagine that we can make use of our Manhood also, but if we give them up, that we shall likewise be deprived of [stereo -- deprived of, robbed of] our lives [somata -- living bodies]. Do not suppose, therefore, that we shall give up to you the only possessions [agatha -- Manly Goods] that we have ; rather, with these we shall do battle [machomai -- fight] against you for your possessions as well."

      [13] When he heard this, Phalinus laughed and said : "Why, you talk like a philosopher [philosophos], young man [neaniskos], and what you say is quite pretty [ouk acharistos -- not unpleasing] ; be sure, however, that you are a fool [anoetos] if you imagine that your Manhood could prove superior to the King's might [dynamis]."

      ~Xen. Anab. 2.1.12-13, translated by Brownson.

      Bill Weintraub:

      Phalinus here unwittingly sums up the issue in both Xenophon's and Arrian's Anabatai -- Would Greek Manhood prove superior to Persian might?

      The answer, in both cases, was Yes.

      Might is an aspect of Manhood, but Manhood is more important, more encompassing, and more powerful -- than might alone.

      Notice also that Xenophon uses the word agathos -- good, but that Prof Brownson renders the word as "possession."

      Yet it's Xenophon's use of the word agathos that makes his remarks "philosophical."

      "We have no other Good save Arms and Manhood."

      That one sentence alone can stand as the Warrior Creed.

      Xenophon continues :

      "Do not suppose, therefore, that we shall give up to you the only Goods that we have ; rather, with these we will Fight you for your goods as well."

      That is, With our only Goods, our Arms and our Manhood, we'll Fight you and take from you your goods, your arms, your land, and your manhood -- too.

      We will Fight you -- and we will UN-man you.

      And Xenophon means what he says.

      Throughout his life, Xenophon believed it was the Destiny of Greek Manhood -- to Fight, Conquer, and UN-man -- Persian.

      Let's return to the Kynegetikos.

      In the context of the Kynegetikos, which, like the Anabasis, is Martial and Masculinist, Hunting confers "Manly Goods" -- non-material benefits which are Manly --

      [hunting] is the only one among the pleasures [hedonai] of the younger men that produces a rich crop of agathoi -- of Manly Goods.

      And, of course, the rich crop of blessings, of Manly Goods, produced by the "pleasure" of Hunting -- is Manhood.

      Fighting Manhood.

      For hunting, says Xenophon, "makes sober" -- that is, it helps give the young Man control over his passions, his sensual desires -- and that matters because to Warrior Ethicists like Xenophon and Plato, sensual desires and pleasures must always serve Manhood -- and never the reverse.

      The only legitimate use of pleasure -- which is a function of the world of becoming -- is to serve Manhood, Fighting Manhood -- which is an expression -- of the Warrior World of Being.

      And hunting, says Xenophon, gives the young Men control of their sensual desires and thus helps make "Manfully Morally Ordered Men of them, because they are trained in the School of Truth" --

      And the School of Truth of course is the Warrior Kosmos -- the Warrior World of Being and its Values and its pre-eminent Value, its Idea of Good -- Fighting Manhood.

      Xenophon continues :

      (and they -- the progonoi -- the ancestors -- perceived that to these Men -- that is, to Morally Ordered Men -- they owed their success in war, as in other matters) ; and it does not rob them of any other Honourable and Morally Beautiful occupation they wish to follow, as do other and evil pleasures that they ought not to learn. Of such Men, therefore, are Manly, that is, Willing and Able to Fight, citizen-soldiers and citizen-generals made.

      So -- evil pleasures -- kakai hedonai -- will rob a Man, will steal from him, any other Honourable and Morally Beautiful occupation he wishes to follow -- which to Xenophon's mind, as to those of his fellow Warriors, will always be an occupation which centers on Fighting ; which is why, he says, "of such Men are Manly -- that is, Willing and Able to Fight -- citizen-soldiers and citizen-generals made."

      Hunting, in other words, and says Xenophon, will impart the Values which make a Man more Morally Ordered and thus a better Warrior.

      Does Plato agree?

      Yes!

      Training to be a Warrior, which includes hunting skills, is a core part of his programs, his ethical programs, in both the Republic and the Laws.

      As Jaeger says, and as we discussed in Chapter II, Part II of Biblion Pempton :

      In many details, the ethical doctrines of Plato and Aristotle were founded on the aristocratic morality of early Greece . . . . The class limitations of the old ideals were removed when they were sublimated and universalised by philosophy : while their permanent truth and their indestructible ideality were confirmed and strengthened by that process.

      Plato's ethical doctrines "were founded on the aristocratic morality of early Greece," which was Homeric Greece, a purely Warrior Society.

      These doctrines were and are possessed of "permanent truth" and "indestructible ideality."

      Translation : They're part of the World of Being, the Warrior World of Being, which explains their persistence over vast quantities of Time.

      The point to all this being that while Plato and Xenophon did not, apparently, get along, they came from the same society, the same Masculinist and Martial Warrior Society, and shared the same Masculinist Values, the same Warrior Norms.

      And when you've read deeply, as you should, in ancient literature, you'll see that Xenophon's and Plato's Warrior Ethics are not the exception -- they're the rule.

      They're what Men in a Masculinist, Martial, Phallo-Centric, and by nature Pugnacious Warrior Society think about Life and the Right Way -- the Warrior Way -- to Live.

      Xenophon :

      [9] For they whose toils [ponoi] root out whatever is base [aischros] and froward [hybristikos -- insolent, wanton] from mind and body and make desire for Areté, Manly Excellence, Fighting Manhood, to flourish in their place -- they are the best [aristos -- the Most Manly, that is, the Most Willing and Able to Fight], since they will not brook injustice to their own city nor injury to its soil.

      . . .

      [12] But many of those who are critical of hunting, blinded by jealousy [phthonos], choose to be ruined through their own evil [kakia] rather than be saved by other men's virtue [Areté -- Manly Virtue, which is Manly Excellence, which is Fighting Manhood, ]. For most pleasures [hedonai] are evil [kakai], and by yielding to these they are encouraged either to say or to do what is wrong.

      Bill Weintraub:

      Men can only be Saved through other Men's Manly Excellence, their Fighting Manhood.

      Which is to say that

      A Man's Manhood can only be Saved through the Experience of another Man's Manhood

      A point Xenophon repeats frequently, as he does in his Lakedaimonian Constitution :




      [4.1] For those who had reached the prime of life [hebao] Lykourgos showed by far the deepest solicitude. For he believed that if these were of the right stamp they must exercise a powerful influence for good [agathos -- Manly Excellence] on the state [polis].

      [2] He saw that where the spirit of rivalry [philoneikia -- love of strife, love of eager rivalry] is strongest among the people, there the choruses [choros] are most worth hearing and the athletic contests [gymnikos agon -- naked contests] afford the finest spectacle. He believed, therefore, that if he could match [symballo] the young men [hoi hebontes] together in a strife of valour [Eris peri Areté -- a Struggle of, for, and about Manhood -- not just valour, but all the attributes of Manhood] , they too would reach a high level of manly excellence [andragathia -- Manly Excellence]. I will proceed to explain, therefore, how he instituted matches [symballo] between the young men.

      [3] The Ephors [ephoroi], then, pick out three of the very best [akmazo] among them. These three are called Commanders of the Guard [hippegretai]. Each of them enrols a hundred others, stating his reasons for preferring one and rejecting another.

      [4] The result is that those who fail to win the honour [ta kala] are at war [polemeo] both with those who sent them away and with their successful rivals ; and they are on the watch for any lapse from the code of honour [ta kala].

      [5] Here then you find that kind of strife [eris] that is dearest to the Gods [Theophiles], and in the highest sense political -- the strife that sets the standard of a brave man's [ton agathon -- a Manly Man's] conduct ; and in which either party exerts itself to the end that it may never fall below its best [kratistos], and that, when the time comes, every member of it may support [arego] the state with all his might [sthenos].

      [6] And they are bound, too, to keep themselves fit [euexia], for one effect of the strife is that they fight [pukteuo -- strike with the fist] whenever they meet [symballo -- come together, are thrown together, come together in a hostile sense]; but anyone present has a right to part the combatants [machomai]. If anyone refuses to obey the mediator the Warden [paidomonos] takes him to the Ephors; and they fine him heavily, in order to make him realize that he must never yield to a sudden impulse [orge] to disobey [krateo] the laws [nomos].

      ~Xen. Const. Lak. 4.1-6, translated by Marchant.

      Bill Weintraub:

      Perrin translates the first sentence in Paragraph 6 as "And they are bound, too, to keep themselves fit, for one effect of the strife is that they spar [pukteuo -- box, fight, spar] whenever they meet [symballo -- are thrown together, come together in a hostile sense]. . ."

      And while it's true that one definition of pukteuo is "spar," it's clear from the rest of the paragraph and the use of the word philoneikia in Paragraph 2, as well as the word symballo throughout Chapter 4, that not sparring, but an actual and all-out fist fight is what is meant.

      Talbert's translation, is, then, more accurate :

      They must keep themselves physically fit too, since their rivalry actually makes them come to blows when they meet.

      That makes sense, since if all the Men were doing was sparring, there'd be no reason for "anyone present," as Perrin says, "to seek to part the combatants."

      The Rivals are Combatants, and the Fight is an all-out Fight.

      This isn't the YMCA or a meeting of the Women's Christian Temperance Union -- it's Sparta.

      And the Struggle, the Fight, is a True Fight , a Fight of, for, and about -- MANHOOD.

      And to Xenophon, as to any True Warrior, such Fighting is in the best and highest sense political, that is, of benefit to the polis, the city-state -- and Dearest to the Gods.

      Just as Achilles' decision to serve Manhood by avenging Patroklos is timao -- Honored and Deemed of the Highest Worth -- by the Gods.

      The Gods Love Manhood, Fighting Manhood, and those who live in its service.

      Which means that the Gods Love Warriors, and Warriordoms.

    Finally :

    In the Anabasis, the emissary of the Great King, Phalinus, says to Xenophon, "You talk like a philosopher."

    That's right, and it's because Xenophon is a philosopher.

    He's rarely so regarded today, but the ancients -- his peers -- recognized him as a philosopher -- Xenophon "ho philosophos" -- who was schooled by Sokrates.

    Xenophon is a moral philosopher, an ethicist, and that's why he writes.

    He's interested in and greatly concerned with Right and Wrong, Virtue and Vice, Honestum et Turpe -- which for him, as for us, comes down to Manhood and want of manhood -- Andreia - Areté / Areta -- and an-andria.

    He's not interested in ontology or epistemology etc.

    He's a Warrior and a Military Man, and what interests him is Manliness.

    That's why he's been read for 2400 years.

    And also why he's the only ancient author whose work has come down to us intact.

    That's to say, we have a copy of everything he wrote.

    That's not true of anyone else, so far, at least, as I know.

    But it is of Xenophon.

    He has survived, and endured, and will continue to -- so long as there are Men.

    Bill Weintraub